Spaw, I am at a rare loss for words... but thanks. As to the cliquenishness of the other site, apparantly they did later post my and a few other reply's to Steve's note, so I stand corrected that they mail to folks, but don't accept return mail, I had that impression from the past, but I may be wrong, it may be something of very strict oversite of what gets through the web master or something. Cheers all. Larry