the obit America thread works on some level for me -- that is, our government, in the form of congressional approval, has advanced the Bush Doctrine. I theory at least, this does compromise the initial concept of our form of gov't.

this, on the other hand does not work for me. I could go back an link to any number of threads in which the proponderance of posters here have repeatedly characterized Bush as a hapless, bumbling, pretzel-choking, malaproping........idiot.

And now we're to believe that he suddenly turned on a dime and is the next Kahn?

one or t'other folks, please. yer makin' me dizzy.