I used to have no sympathy with people who have this problem or also drug addiction, but after dealing with some junk in my own life and ending up in the dreaded "group therapy" for a stint, I am absolutely conviinced that #1 alcohol addiction is a disease #2 it is rarely the problem but simply an effort to "self medicate" to solve the problem. (Which, by the way, is not a good solution) Much the same thing as people who overeat, undereat, overexcersize, or any number of more"acceptable" addictions, they are all trying to do the same things, mostly to stop their pain. Hang in there, guy, and know that everyone who has been there (and damn if that isn't a lot of us) is praying for you! jimmyt