hmmmm......I think there is a direct relation here. As the fingering of the chord becomes more convoluted, so does the name. Small wonder. Thanks Tony. I'll bookmark the site for future reference. You've done your good deed for the day. I've been playing that jumble of notes for years and never knew what to call it. It's back to seeing what other spaghetti twists I can put my fingers in. Regards, Neil.