Ah but speaking as a dead person is it a life worth saving? I find that this current afterlife is quite interesting.... the reincarnating can be a bit bothersome at times, but it does prevent a nasty niff following me around oh and the bits dropping off thing can be very inconvienient...I must say that the Penny R is a splending ice breaker but perhaps the acorn got the tonnage wrong? It looked more like 8000lbs when I saw it docked on the river ahind durty nellies this evening.