Puzzled.... the point I was trying to make, unsuccessfully, it would appear, is that I felt alienated from the majority of Mudcatters because carrying firearms is not a citizen's right in Britain, and not a consideration for the majority when they feel, or are, threatened. Richard Bridge.....Ilive and work in Wales, and I avoid the cities here as I would in the rest of the UK, by choice. I work as a Social Worker, covering an area of 40 square miles ish, and do not fear stray bullets or any firearms. Mudcat is about a shared delight in Folk and Blues music. This discussion is fascinating, helping me to understand the American philosophies and lifestyle. Thank you for that. Hwyl Bron