Bobert, this will be my last post on this subject, so a couple of words in clarification.

1. The hippie comment I made was in response to OBU's previous comment (which is why I gave the hint "in response to OBU" in that paragraph). I really did know that hippies weren't around during the Civil War, though there are some really old hippies. I am however overjoyed that you feel that had there been hippies back during the Civil War, they would have joined the Republicans in fighting the Democrat slave holders. And despite Democrat rumors to the contrary, the Republicans still hold that position against slavery.

2. Every election I have voted in I have split my ticket, and have voted for Democrats at federal, state and local offices, though only Kennedy and Johnson as presidential votes.

3. And yes, when I wrote "Taliban crushed" I was more than aware there were other casualties involved, despite the supersilious reminders. And no, in my dark little world, other nations casualties are not worth more than American lives (or the lives of those who stand with us). I would vastly prefer that is never "either - or", but once I am clear in my mind that that is the choice, I have never had a problem with insuring that the other guy, and those standing around him, get to die for their country.

4. Finally, if you truely believe that those nations of the "Axis" can again conduct a Vietnam-like war and defeat us, you might want to think of a couple things first. We have no intention of putting ourselves into the Vietnam mentality, and now conduct our wars with the idea of notifying everyone in country we are coming, killing hundreds of thousands of the enemy combatants with absolute air power, telling the noncombatants to get far away, or at least don't fire weapons at a wedding party, and then sending in troops to get personal with anyone who hasen't gotten the message. And as far as the Gulf and Afaghan wars, we have lost more personnel to accidents, than enemy fire. There are no more political do-not-cross lines, you die where we find you. There are no Democrat politicians selecting the target list. Vietnam went away the day that bomb went down the air shaft in Bahgdad. And at this point, most people in the world know it.

(By the way, I haven't "carpet bomed" any women lately, though I have "sofa bomed" a couple of gals who later told me they loved it... and I know I did... )