all the best Susan, I don't know Dick, have not been invited to contact Dick, would not know how to contact Dick. Many other database issues are brought to attention this way, sincerely wanted to help make this site the best it can be. Never mind, do it yourself. That's it from me. (or should I just concentrate on thinking up BS threads?) nah, my life is too short to waste here anymore. Besides, who the heck cares? make that one less.