And I just remembered - when we had ducks, Helen used to get sacks of stale stuff from the local bakery, to feed 'em on. I came home from work one day and she was at the top of the garden, sucking the jam out of doughnuts, a whole bin bag full of them, before the ducks could get at 'em. She's 57 next birthday and nowhere near mature - just old enough to do as she likes!