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Thread #52446   Message #805647
Posted By: Ireland
17-Oct-02 - 06:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: Northern Ireland Mess
Subject: RE: BS: Northern Ireland Mess
Guest there is no argument to win, my point is I have enough to be bitter about to keep the old prejudices going, I have recognised that SF has a lot to offer in doing so I hold no bitterness, I see their worth you seem to have a problem in recognising that.

I cannot say the same for you, as you see no good in the unionists to the extent your telling those who support the GFA they don't and all the blame lies with them.

If the IRA are as acceptable as you make them out to be then in your opinion the world leaders who see the IRA as terrorists are out of step with your views, total arrogance. The Irish premier does not want SF with an illegal organisation tagged to it, the unionists and the British government have so far tolerated the IRA SF link.

The fact remains that the IRA is a terrorist organisation it fulfills the internationally recognised definition on terrorism, and if SF wants to be involved in any democratic process it has to recognise that fact.

Just because you recognise their spying as being in the interest of nat/rep community does not explain what use the details of 2000 prison officers are to that community.

I'll tell you the use, if the licence of the released nat/rep terrorists are revoked. The IRA have the details of each and every prison officer that they will use to threaten the prison staff, if you have read my posts you will know the scenario of how such info would be used.

This is why the intelligence gathering was illegal it is of use to terrorist and in that context you cannot complain if people object. The IRA were covering their back and got caught doing so, they were displaying a lack of commitment and to use the rhetoric about unionists using it to wreck the agreement does not negate the responsibility that the IRA has in this mess.

What SF is trying to do is convince nat/rep that all the blame lies on the unionists, because they are afraid of losing their support and as you put it "It is the nationalist and republican communities that now stand to lose everything they gained, not the unionists." SF/IRA do not want to be held responsible for that so they blame everyone else except those who are at fault themselves.