Hi Dave,

I can second most of the opinions above, especially katlaughing's (shortened to katL or various other acronyms for ease of typing) one about "manhandling" search engines. That should read "person-handling".

Don't believe a word that catspaw says about any of us. He's just recovering from a major health scare so he can't be relied on to know what any of us are really like, because we all showed a completely new face during his illness. We stopped being smart-arsed wisecracking phoaks and fell into being caring, sharing, love-and-light-sending kind of phoaks, but we're counting down to the deadline for getting back to *normal*, i.e. lots of B.S. (unless specifically requested to refrain from it in threads) and a lot of creative lateral thinking in answering questions or commenting on things generally. Sometimes, as in this thread, we get so caught up in chatting and wisecracking that we forget to answer serious questions about stuff like protocols, but we get there eventually.

I think the clearest insight here is that it's not getting to the destination which is important, it's the journey along the way.

Come in, enjoy the company, feel free to honk as much as you can, we're all doing it too at some point or other.

And, what *is* in the case. If you were in Australia and you said you were bringing a case everyone would think you had a case of beer.

Welcome, Helen (in Oz)