"It is obvious that you don't wish to have a reasonable discussion on this subject, but rather to lash out at people who disagree with you and who have the temerity to point out the fallacies in your arguments."

Sharon, I think your own statement applies as well to yourself. Larry has made attempt after attempt to reason with the posts that didn't agree with his own, yours included. I don't blame him a bit for feeling that this discussion is going nowhere. This is definitely a situation that fits the ol' chestnut, "Discretion is sometimes the better part of a valor".

I'm very sorry when these discussions become victims of the all-too-popular j'accuse tactic of faltering debate teams, and instead of points of view being made, arrows of personal attack are launched.

This argument has become moot -- let's not beat the dead horse of entrenched and enflamed personal vindictive anymore.

All the best to all who participated here, Áine