Having spent an afternoon playing various guitars, from Martin, S&P, Art Luthier, Seagull, through Takamine and Tanglewoods- I picked up a Yam LD- I was so familiar with it I nearly got it there and then. I do like the Yams, and this sounded good (maybe I didn't, but the guitar did) Still want to try a LL series. There seemed to be little difference between the Saegull/S&P's and Art L, maybe because they are all made by the same people. Still looking.