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Thread #52871 Message #810911
Posted By: alanabit
25-Oct-02 - 07:12 AM
Thread Name: October 25: John of Beverley
Subject: RE: October 25: John of Beverley
I'm not sure if Henry V was that big a shit, Greg. I see him more as a product of his times. Putting one over the Frogs is always a good idea, of course. I don't think we've done that since the days of Geoff Hurst and Bobby Charlton - or am I getting my dates mixed up here... On the downside, he was a ruthless militarist and by today's reckoning, a harsh, religious bigot. His war against France - effectively a couple of seasons of organised hooliganism - was so unjust that even Shakespeare ridiculed his claims at the beginning of his play. On the plus side, he did consolidate his throne in the UK during his lifetime and he could at least (like his father) speak English. Neither of those accusations could ever be levelled against the vainglorious, incompetent prat Richard "Couer de Lion". Agincourt was won by a mixture of discipline by the English and Welsh troops, good luck and incomprehesible stupidity on the part of the French. It is said that Henry marched bareheaded to London in humility after the victory, because he at least had the decency to recognise how lucky he had been. I wonder how many jingoistic Brits are aware of the fact that Agincourt was only fought because Henry had lost the campaign and we Brits were bravely trying to run away and get the next Sealink ferry home from Calais? So what did this St.John fellow do to get his sainthood. Did he rescue any Fascists in Franco's Spain?