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Thread #16846   Message #820136
Posted By: GUEST,Q
06-Nov-02 - 02:16 PM
Thread Name: Origin: Joe Turner
Subject: RE: Where'd JOE TURNER come from?
Thanks, Brian. The article is noted in the references but no date is given, nor is the article referred to with any of the songs. The Odum-Johnson book is lacking with respect to details.

It seems odd that there is no mention of "Joe Turner Blues" in Paul Oliver, "Screening the Blues," in light of the apparent importance ascribed to it by Handy-Silverman et al.
When did Walter Hirsh write the lyrics given for Handy's "Joe Turner Blues"? I have the date 1926 from the Univ. Oregon website, but no details given, noted only as "typical 12 bar pattern."

It looks like there are four Joe Turners in three songs. 1. The storekeeper. 2., 3. The man who gathered for the prisons, and, in changed form, the man who returned from prison or the chain gang. 4. The Joe Turner who sings the song in "Joe Turner Blues" of Handy-Hirsh. Great singing, Richie. It would be nice to have the complete song in Mudcat.