This thread stems from Max's thread about cheap computers. There are lots of computers out there which could still be useful for most purposes, but because of Microshit's policy of not supporting things that are more than three years old they are "useless". I'm fed up of Microshit producing operating systems that do not work from day one without help, then killing them as soon as they look like being stable and useful. I'm fed up of a company that produces software to a guarantee that allows so many bugs that it is worthless. I only use their products because they allow me to run software that runs under them, and becauseI have obtained them at discounted rates (including the licences I got out of various dumpsters). If I had a penny for every minute I have wasted because of Bill Gates' policies, I would be rich. Multiply this by the number of frustrated computer debuggers in the world, and Bill Gates new home would be a one-room country shack made from discarded packing cases. What can be done?