Well again thanks for the kind words, on the note of not discussing religion and politics, that is what got us in this mess in the first place, letting others discuss for us, so I no longer obey that rule. On the other note about libertarianism, I agree with the LP on almost everything, actually I am an Anarchist as well as an Atheist, so I just want government and religion to leave me alone, as I have read all about the founding of this wonderful country, and I refuse to let the Democrats, Republicans, or the religious people ruin this wonderful country. BTW I met mrrzy at the godless march on DC, and a wonderful time was had by all. I hope this straightens out a few things.