Ireland, you make a lot of sweeping, damning allegations which are poorly organized and thought out, so it makes it difficult to discuss anything with you. You seem to be in constant attack mode too, which also makes it difficult to discuss things rationally.

McGrath, I think you nailed it dead on. The democratic nations of the world have a duty and responsibility both to their own citizenry and the international community of which we are all citizens as well, to do all in their powers (which we all know is a considerable amount more than is currently being done) to prevent violence and warfare from breaking out, and addressing the root causes of terrorism.

Zimbabwe is just one other current example of the need to stop propping up "our bastards" who, once we withdraw our resources and attention from them, turn on us. Somebody should certainly get that message to the Bush administration's armchair generals straight away.