Big RiB, Thanks for the book tips. I bought a guitar, very cheap, a few months ago and haven't done anything with it, but was thinkg that summers is here and now I have some time. Of course, kat can't wait till I try the mandolin. I do play the violin and plat at the baritone uke. maybe I shound decide what I want to play and quite messing around. Anyway, thanks for the book suggestions. bet