Chet, Chet, Chet,

Don't be so fatalistic! It is any place where people get together and honestly state their views that is the place where problems are solved.

Problem solving rarely starts with a consensus. If there is consensus there is no problem.

So discussions like the one on this thread are where problem solving begins. Now the task on the Mudcat is not to solve world problems. Remember that thread from nearly a year ago? We talked about our major task is to do our best to contribute to a solution of the problem.

If you could be a little more existential, you might be a might happier than you sound.

Roger in Baltimore