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Thread #53662   Message #828252
Posted By: Genie
17-Nov-02 - 04:43 AM
Thread Name: BS: Mark Twain & Patriots Defined
Subject: RE: BS: Mark Twain & Patriots Defined
Thanks, Rapaire, for jogging my memory.  I thought it was "the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot," though.  In any case, I think we have a lot of those in the US right now -- eager to wave flags and bomb other countries but not willing to do anything inconvenient like trying to conserve energy or working to promote understanding among people of different nations and faiths.

 Don F
It seems that everybody gets hung up on tracking down the earliest source of a quote and miss the point being made.
You may have misunderstood my priorities.  If someone makes a vague reference to a quote (e.g., "A famous American once said "My country, right or wrong.") I don't see it as important to go find out who said it and what the exact quotation was.  But if the quotation is misquoted or misattributed, I do think it's helpful to correct it before the misinformation multiplies.  This does not distract me substantially from the main point.

 I always found "patriotic" music a guilty pleasure. ...  Are there patriotic songs you like, that don't court these dangers?

 One of my favorites is the Earl Robinson and a co-writer (whose name escapes me at) song "The House I Live In."  I think it reflects what America could be if we came close to living up to our ideals.  I also love "America The Beautiful."  If you consider the lyrics of all 4 verses, it is not a jingoistic, my-country-is-better-than-yours song.  It's a prayer of thanksgiving for a beautiful, bountiful land and for the sacrifices made by those who "more than self their country loved and mercy more than life," and a prayer for guidance in the pursuit of liberty, justice, and brotherhood.