This is to Dale Rose. Thanks for your imput. I know there are many frailers but as you say they are not very well known. Most banjo players automatically think 3 finger(Scruggs style). Some of my favorites are Steve Brainard, Paul Prestipino, Erick Darling. I learned from Steve Brainard but have lost touch with him over the years. I would like to keep in touch with other players so send me an Email. I am in Eastern Colorado,email@example.com. Hope to hear from you.