Not a private thread Bobert. I'm not in a right to work state, I'm a teamster. I also think that slavery isn't over, that I have advantages that came from somewhere. I agree that there are truths about absolutes like freedom that are hidden and hard for all of us to make out clearly. I sometimes think the real way to vote is by what you'll spend a dollar on. If anybody got organised about it. If you could keep up with where that dollar went.

Parts of this discussion are like getting a piece of tape on your finger, you try to get it off, it sticks there, etc. If I make a comparison, somebody might take it as an equation. I hope I haven't offended anybody, it's pretty hard to always say the right thing. That's what I'm bothered about. What's the right thing to say?