Well Greg......thats a bit of a stunner......go out of Hull?........I dont know about that kind of thing...........but dont you fall off the edge if you go past Goole?.........Cheshire..........MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm........is that near Scotland?.........I had better go to the temple of 9.............. consult the ancient writings................. speak to the high priest.............hang up some fresh seaweed................de-barnacle the longship...............MMMMMmmmmmmmm.............wonder if its quicker going via Iceland?.................(Sounds tempting:-)