My goodness you could knock me over with a feather at the moment. I expected to find my little whine buried underneath a dozen 'what have **** ever done for us' threads. At the least I thought a couple of quick one liners saying 'not another mudcat complaint thread' would cast me as the latest villain, and that would discourage any oldtimers from breaking ranks.

Thank you for taking my concerns seriously, and I'm really not normally a troublemaker. I simply had reached a point where the silliness and copycat idiocy was making me more irritable than normal.

I'll probably add some more to this thread if it continues to be of interest to anyone but at the moment I really *am* astounded that so many people have responded with interest rather than anger.

There are a couple of things that have gotten twisted though that I should clear up. Number one, my current Guest status is the result of a relationship upheaval and not Mudcat's doing. At the moment it's cybercafes during lunch and friend's places when I want to Mudcat but hopefully in the near future I'll have my own shit back together again. I may go back to my previous handle or come up with something new, but until them I'll be iggy.

The other thing I want to clear up is that GUEST of 11;33, I hold you and your kind in complete contempt and we have nothing in common. Yes you are more articulate than I am but you don't care about this forum or the people who love it. Why? Not because of your Guest status, but because you deliberately allow the rest of us to have to speculate on whether you are one person or a dozen. Are you the same person who watches with glee while people argue about the Middle East in threads that *you* have started simply to cause trouble? Also you lie. You lie that Max or Joe can't take criticism. What a lot of shit. They take it all the time. I've been around folk people all my life (does anyone know the term 'red diaper baby') and *you* GUEST are not a folk person.

iggy ** still in a bit of shock.