Richard

When the Rolling stones played Wembley Stadium this would have to be made safe for them.

If the Rolling Stones were to play a pub, of course the pub would have to be made safe for them.

If you or I were to play the same pub it should be made safe for that.

Are you suggesting that we should have unsafe premises and that this makes any sort of sense.

Premises should have the option of whether they provide music or not but surely no licencee should be given the option of running premises that can later be claimed, by the Local Authority to be unsafe.

I think our noble Lords would be a little surprised to think that the Government and the pubs are making an argument in favour of having unsafe premises. If you are right, that is exactly what they are doing.

The alternative is that after all this fuss and increased revenue, you or I playing non amplified for charity in a pub, can make the premises unsafe. Does that make any sense?

When stated aims of the Licensing Reform Bill, currently receiving a Second Reading in the Lords are - public safety, prevention of crime and disorder, prevention of public nuisance, and protecting children from harm.