Hiya DougR! I feel nervous brandishing the term moronic, yet, since the thread is all about it, I've simply incorporated it into a 'snake eating it's tail' metephor... I am not in any way saying or implying that everyone is moronic... It seems you took my words out of context, and did your own little spin. Could you do me a favor, Doug..., would you please reread my previous post? Then, instead of simply having a little 'duck shoot' with it,... maybe try to find the good hearted meaning that I know is contained therein... Thanks, and Happy Holidays! ttr