Sorry Kat. My last post was not a reply to yours, our post's must have crossed. They have crossed again, this a reply to your first one.

I don't understand how, if you feel so deeply that you have been and continue to be excluded from the larger society that you refer to as "your society" (meaning mine, nor yours), why you cannot see that creating your own (for the illusion of your own safety), which excludes everyone else, will only produce the same feeling of alienation in that larger community and can only increase the hostility that you complain of.

If you remove yourselves, your views and influence from larger society, how can you then condemn it for being 'hetro' biased?

My thinking re the proposed (by me)'gay' Mudcat thread, was not that it would not be safe, more that it would not be necessary. I for one do not care about anybody's sexual preferences. It is not necessary surely to know that information to enable us to be friends and share songs, jokes and views? I could tell you mine, but why should I think you or anyone would be interested?

If we can agree here, to disagree on other subjects, why should any difference in preferences, sexually or otherwise come between us?

But given the tone of one of your later replies I am beginning to regret that I have taken a large piece of shiny of bait. I live on the some planet as you, the difference between us seems to be that you do not want to share it.