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Thread #54460   Message #844612
Posted By: Big Mick
10-Dec-02 - 11:56 AM
Thread Name: Obit: Philip Berrigan-Anti-war activist (Dec 2002)
Subject: RE: Obit: Philip Berrigan - Anti-war activist
OK..........I am just going to say it like it is. You bring this stuff on yourself. I don't pursue you, I simply do what you do. I look for your threads as you did to me. This goes back a very long time and through a large number of your guises. I simply asked that you not attack those that served, and recognize that some had very little control over their circumstance. I asked you to not condemn the warriors. I told you over and over again that we had much more in common than we differed on, if we could just have some dialogue without you attacking us all the time. But you just kept coming with that horseshit, antagonistic, know it all attitude. I was OK with that because I have been here long enough to know that many types visit, and even some pretty nice folks have their moments. Hell, I have had a million of them. That is because I am human. But when you started belittling those that didn't agree with you, and when you started jumpin into threads for the express purpose of hijacking them because they didn't agree with your agenda, and when you were asked to just let us poor, unenlightened fools to have a time to simply say thanks to those that served and you refused, I figured you would get a dose of your own salt. And you don't like it.

There are two "perceptual realities" that you are trying to create. The first is that I am harassing you. You are throwing these terms around in an attempt to make me believe that I am at legal risk. You don't know my background, but I assure you that I know what constitutes harassment. In a public forum, monitoring a protagonist's pronouncements and taking issue with them is not harassment under any interpretation. So you can save all that, cause that dog don't hunt.

The second "perceptual reality" you are trying to create is that there is a significant number of Mudcatters that object to my pronouncements and treatment of you. I would say two things. First, I don't say things based on what others will think. My treatment of you is based on your actions. Whether others approve or not is not my concern. Secondly, I have been around here enough that most folks know what they like about me or don't like about me. I don't hide my identity, and I have met a large number of these good people. I have made my mistakes in the past, and have apologized face to face to those folks, and admitted publicly that I had made an error. In other words, I believe I have gained a certain amount of credibility. You, on the other hand, not only remain an unknown GUEST, but you try to create perceptions by posting under a lot of names (male and female), and implying that it is several people. An example of this would be when you used the GUEST: thread lurker appellation. Then when you are called on that you claim that you are being harassed. Not so. All these things take away your credibility. So go ahead and try to keep portraying me as something I am not. Those that know me know what is so, good and bad. I will take my chances.

Oh.........and one last thing. It is you that continues this. Had you just left it alone, I would have not responded. Had you just called me a name, I would have ignored you. But what you posted required a response. So I did. You knew that would happen, that is why you posted it. I now expect you will want the last word. Go ahead. It is yours.

Mick