Big Mick,

You've said it so well. I see it from a number of perspectives, including the union background, and rather than trying to take a page or two to say what I think & feel, and what experiences I have lived through in my life, I'll just go with Mick's view. It's so close to my own view any way.

I've lived on the other side too, and theory versus reality don't match up yet, sad to say. I finally had to come to terms with the fact that I couldn't be brave enough to live that life, but I'm still getting repercussions from the past and that was 15-25 years ago.

Love to all in this thread, Helen