I'm not understanding the last 2 posts it seems. What is meant? No sour grapes here intended. Just the truth as some folks my age see it. ---------- Since the 60s, giving proper credit to our sources has always been the ethic of those who were trad song finders (catchers) rather than writers. The folk process was very important to us. I doubt times have changed all that much. Finding song gems was the main part of what I always tried to do. With our songs we were painting a historical picture of the adventure that populating the USA was until looking to the past for values became passe with those generationally separated ones who missed out on the pride and excitement involved with uncovering these vivid artifacts. Many of us had no desire to be writers of songs. Never ! We were portrayers of history, with all it's great sentimentality and drama, without ethical value judgments presented through the best versions of the best people's songs we could locate.

Sorry for the thread creep. But some may have misunderstood what I was saying. To old friend, Utah, if you are lurking (which I really doubt) I'm sorry for treading on your thread. You know what your influence on me has always been----and I thank you heartily for it.

Art