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Thread #55084 Message #854765
Posted By: Alice
28-Dec-02 - 08:54 PM
Thread Name: SOMETHING FOR THE THROAT
Subject: RE: SOMETHING FOR THE THROAT
Go to a doctor for a cough you have had that long. Don't mess with self medicating - seek a physician, a specialist in the nose/throat if possible. Do not sing if your throat is hurting. Do not use products that deaden the pain, as you may damage your thoat while singing because you can't feel how painful it is!
Herbal remedies are touted widely, but are NOT necessarily good for singers. Read the following and see a doctor.
http://www.upmc.edu/upmcvoice/Herbmedsingers.htm
University of Pittsburgh Voice Center
For Your Information:
Taking Herbal Medicines:
What Singers Should Know
By Jason B. Surow, M.D. , F.A.C.S.
Northern Jersey Ear, Nose and Throat Associates
44 Godwin Avenue, Midland Park,
New Jersey, 07432
http://www. njent.com
There has been a recent increase in the use of alternative medicine treatments by many
individuals, including singers. The following is important information that was collected by
Jason B. Surow, MD, during a recent survey of singers regarding their use of alternative
medicine treatments for voice disorders. An alarming number of singers reported using a
variety of alternative medicine strategies, predominantly herbal medicines, for their voice
problems. The great concern regarding this use of herbal medicines for the treatment of voice
disorders is the unknown side effects of these herbal medications.
The following information is of potential concern and caution for singers in regarding the use
of herbal medicines, vitamins and nutrients. These lists are condensed from a variety of
sources and publications on herbal medicines, and often claims from these sources are listed in
quotations. No attempts at substantiation of these claims were made for this listing.
Herbal Medicine with Possible Anticoagulation Results (Blood thinning effect)
Dong Quai- "contains coumarin"*
Willow bark- "contains salicylates" *
Primrose
Cowslip
Jack-in-the-Pulpit -
Red root- "causes clotting disorders
"Garlic- "in high dose worsens anticoag" "inhibits platelet aggregation and has fibrinolytic
activity"***
Vitamin E - "in high doses"
Gingko Biloba-"inhibits platelet aggregation"***
Feverfew-"inhibits components of the clotting cascade and may inhibit platelet aggregation"***
Ginger-"reduces platelet aggregation"
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*coumadin (warfacin) is a powerful blood-thinning agent
** salicyate= aspirin
***this can cause prolonged bleeding
Herbal Medicines with Possible Inhalant Allergy Cross-Reactivity
With Ragweed:
Chamomile- "long term use can lead to ragweed allergy"
Goldenseal
With Sunflower:
Echinacea
Photosensitization Concerns From Herbal Medicine (skin rash and sensitivity
to sunlight)
St. John's Wort
Celery
Dong Qua
iYarrow
Herbal Medicine with Possible Diuretic Effects (water losing effect)
Elder "strong diuretic"
Feverfew
Dandelion
Nettles
Herbal Medicine with Possible Blood Pressure Concerns
St. John's Wort*- MAO inhibitor effect. "Don't take with amphetamines, amino acids, asthma
inhalers, caffeine, decongestants, beer, wine, yogurt, fermented or smoked foods." [avoid
amino acid tyramine] Avoid narcotics due to high incidence of high fever with coma.
Ma Huang (ephedra)*- "avoid in MAO inhibitor use (often used in depression), glaucoma,
anxiety, heart problems"
Goldenseal
Ginseng
Licorice root- causes fluid retention.
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*MAO inhibitor is a class of drugs that are commonly used for the treatment of depression
Herbal Medicines with Possible Immune Dysregulation Effects
Echinacea- "may overstimulate immune system and lead to immune suppression" "Increases
tumor necrosis factor" "Don't use in HIV" Don't use for more than 2 weeks in a row.
Certain herbs should not be used in autoimmune problems like Multiple Sclerosis, arthritis, and
others.
Problems with Production of Herbal Products
L-Tryptophan - l 989 contamination led to several hundred cases of eosinophilia- myalgia
syndrome, and at least one death.
Anticholinergic poisoning from herbal tea yerba de mate (Paraguay tea) contaminated by
Belladonna alkaloids from weeds overgrowing in the field
Vitamin Toxicity
Vitamin C- cramps, flatulence, bloating, diarrhea
Vitamin E- "thins blood" "reduces effectiveness of thyroid replacement" "avoid high doses
with high blood pressure, congestive heart failure, insulin, dependent diabetes, heart
problems"
Uterine Stimulants
yarrow
lady's mantle
dong quai
chamomile
cinnamon
myrrh
yam
licorice root
many others
Herbal Medicines with Possible Hormonal Effects (the vocal folds are known
to change due to some hormones; this can be permanent)
Dong Quai- "increases effects of ovarian and testicular hormones". Used to treat hormonal
problems
Yam- "progesterone-like " chemicals
Licorice root- "has estrogen and progesterone effect. May change pitch of voice"
Hops- "high proportion of estrogens and can lead to loss of libido in men"
Primrose- "natural estrogen promoter"
Melatonin- "major role in production of estrogen & progesterone & other hormones." "acts as
contraceptive in high doses"
Yohimbe- "may increase testosterone. Women shouldn't use"
Other Cautions
Don't use with fever- astragalus(huang qi), goldenseal, others
Chewing leaves of feverfew is a folk remedy but can cause mouth sores
Lobelia has "nicotine-like" effects and >50 gms can suppress breathing and depress BP and
even lead to coma
Ginseng lowers blood sugar so shouldn't be used if hypoglycemic
Nutmeg is toxic in high doses
Sage has chemical (thujone) that can trigger seizures in epileptics.
Melatonin- don't use if severe allergy, immune disorder, or cancer
Peppermint relaxes smooth muscle and can promote gastric acid reflux into the
throat