daylia...aww yep! I DO know that frustration of having a post 'get away'....the smart folks tell me to compose in a word processor, but I never think I'm gonna mess up...maybe later...I read your comments with interest, as you obviously HAVE though about all this a lot....better luck next time.


Little Hawk,,,,tsk...nope...my beliefs are NOT based on faith... I am NOT "rock solid" certain that my five senses are the "only available gates".....but neither do I see any reason to 'open' myself, for the reason mentioned above by Alice.

We, Little Hawk, are doing what I referred to in my last post, that is, we are using words like 'real' differently. Like Ed, I have a pretty narrow definition of 'real' and 'true'...comes from 120-130 hours of Philosophy, I guess...I must be a Philosopher...I made a total of $2000 doing it as a graduate teaching asst.!

In your post, you make, as if they are not disputed, several statements that simply don't track for me, about "third eyes" and "astral planes" and such. I have no idea if you believe in Tarot, or Ouija boards or Astrology...or elves....but there are plenty of folks who take ALL of those things quite seriously....and others who sort of give it lips service without admitting belief, like some Christians.

I really do TRY to be 'open' to possibilities, but if this means I have to become 'suggestable' and try to see things I truly do not see, why then it seems silly to me.

(and if you think YOU have problems getting me to accept the 'higher reality' of things, you should see the frustrated Jehovah's Witnesses leaving my door...they are simply not trained to counter viewpoints like mine, and they ask me to read MORE tracts and quote more scripture at me using circular logic. When I try to explian that I do not accept the rock-bottom, basic premise of their system, they resort to just stating "it IS", and we have to quit talking.)