Malcolm, I spent all of Sunday afternoon going through ALL of the Mudcat's Water is Wide threads. It's been a complicated group of threads, since the same information is contained in most of them. Mostly thanks to yourself.

Malcolm, we don't say this often enough, but THANKS! From the bottom of my heart, many many thanks for the informed posts you provide us with to learn from. It's always great to see a new posting from yourself in a thread I am interested in.

Thanks Turtle Old Man for keeping this discussion going. Hope you get your answers as well. You seem to complement Malcolm's information well. Keep it up.