Thanks Ebbie, don't think I was really polite, was just trying to chase down some conservative ideas to their roots, which turned out to be impenetrable to my liberal pea-brain. What a bottomless sequence of false-bottoms. Gave up, frustrated.

   McGrath, I suppose it does make sense to view it that way, for the long run. I don't suppose it can make perfect sense, anyhow, since AA is just a corrective measure, and ideally it wouldn't be necesary at all. What gets me is the cynical pretence to that ideal, when it is simply not the case. Sure, get rid of AA and we'll be color-blind, things will go back to being fair, like they were, you know, before AA.

   Many points conservatives make, and those that conservative mudcats have made recently, always seem to me to come to this same goofy proposition. Let's pretend. And if you don't care to, you're a spoilsport, closed-minded, a fashionable liberal elitest. I can respect conservatives as people, I'm pretty sure they are almost all better people than say, me. But I can't respect pretentious crackpot ideas that all seem tailored to make me feel better about myself and my life, if I'd put them on. I'd rather keep a clear head as best I can, however much I may fail an ideal life.