Kevin - I despair, the leaders of Russia and China had some connection with reality, and had seen the devastating effects that war had on thier country. The present leadership of North Korea has not. That is something to factor into decision making.

When have the French Government, of any persusion, been concerned with justice, moral standards, or the like. It is only my personal view, but I suspect any political stance against war in the Middle East is more concerned with enabling the French to sell replacement weapons post war than any moral scrupples. As we have seen time and time again in Palestine and elsewhere.

Gareth