Beccy, are you presuming that the woman's partner should make the decision? Or that in relationships where this decision has to be made, that it isn't automatically discussed between them and reached mutually? That the man will think less or or stand in judgement of the woman? What exactly are you asking? Are you trying to suggest that "if men only knew," there wouldn't be so much abortion, that they'd want their babies whatever the cost? It seems to me to be too glib to suggest that only if men carry babies in pregnancy should they make the final decision, but that seems to be where you're wanting this to be headed. Do you have an argument that somehow men would never opt for abortion? You're making pronouncements about what "murder" is and saying that abortion is murder. And any number of people have politely disagreed with you. I disagree with you. I suggest you give this subject a rest and count yourself lucky if you never find yourself in a position where such a decision has to be made. Even if you think you already know the answer, its the path that leads to having to make the decision that we're also talking about here.

SRS