Thanks Don. I'll look into them both. I've always liked the feel at Elderly. Thier shop is so friendly...Have you ever visited them?I love how meny instroments you can get in your grubby little hands in an hour or two.It's the same at Tony's in Anherst{FRetted Instroment shop}. An hour and you've played $50,000.00 worth of instroments . Cheers Guy>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<>>>>>>><<<<<<<>>>>>><<>>><><