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Dr Kim Howells on BBC Radio 4's 'Today' programme 26 November 2002.
KH The churches in London, for example have been subject to a licensing regime for 40 years. There are big churches that hold very big concerts for profit. And if something was to go wrong inside one of those churches, there was a fire or something else happened, the Local Authorities that have to inspect those premises would really be in trouble and they have to be paid for those functions. .That's why there has to be a licence - its to do with public safety.

Dr Kim Howells on BBC Radio 3 Money Matters 26 January 2003
KH It certainly is a lot of money and that is why I want to make sure that churches are exempted from having to pay it.