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Thread #56462   Message #883245
Posted By: Alice
05-Feb-03 - 12:49 PM
Thread Name: Sean Nos - Old Style Singing
Subject: RE: Sean Nos - Old Style Singing
See the thread I refreshed about Joe Heaney, an audio file of a program that Ron Olesko did.

Here is also another page on Joe Heaney:
"I never had a steady job" Joe Heaney: A Life in Song

More excerpts from an earlier thread:

From: Barry Finn - PM
Date: 19 Mar 98 - 07:57 PM


Hi Alice, went looking for an old LP of mine that I can no longer find, that had some very nice singing on it , by 3 different sean-nos
singers, cant remember anything about it now, except for the title "The Lambs On The Green Hills". Comhaltas, in 1977, put out a
book, prepared by Seamus MacMathuna, with a tape of trad singers, tape's among the missing , still have the book, "Traditional Song
& Singers". If you hit Boston, there are some great sean-nos singers here. Bridget Fitzgerald, who's performing at Celtic Roots Fest.
Boston & NEFFA ("songs I learnt from Joe"), & I see from the schedule a good few Mudcaters will be there, is a great old style
singer from the Gaeltacht area of Conamara, not far from Spideal, where I believe she & her sister (another geat singer) Sally Coyne,
were influenced by the geat Tomas O Coisdealbha (Tom Phaidin Tom), who I think put out an LP, produced by Comhaltas, back in
the late 70's, when he would've been in his mid 80's.

Alice, I'd have to agree with Martin about Mary O'Hara. I haven't heard her in ages, so I pulled out her "Songs Of Ireland" LP with
her unac'd version of "Sliabh na mBan" & still didn't get to excited, to trained & parlor style for me.

Aine, some of the older Ulster style singers you might like, forgive me if you're already familiar with, Paddy Tunney, Geordie Hanna
& his sister, Sarah Anne O'Neill & Eddie Sweeney.

Barry



Subject: RE: fellow sean-nos singers?
From: Martin Ryan - PM
Date: 20 Mar 98 - 03:53 AM

Just remembered that one of the singers clubs in Ireland has a web site.

The Nenagh Singers Circle is based in a small town in Tipperary. They would include a range of styles of unaccompanied singing in
Irish and English.The site includes, among other things, a list of similar clubs, with contacts and phone numbers.

Address

http://www.geocities.com/broadway/alley/4749

Still can't emulate Wolfgangs trick and make these "clickable"!

Regards



Subject: RE: fellow sean-nos singers?
From: MarcB - PM
Date: 20 Mar 98 - 07:04 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: Martin Carthy

Consider me both interested and a traditional sean nos singer(as much as a well-melted American can ever be such). Whether or not I
do an old style authentically probably depends on who you ask(and I'll leave it to others to decide). I have spent more energy in the
last few years finding an unaccompanied style that feels both traditional and LIKE ME, rather than worrying about whether it sounds
like someone else. Only because that's what I wanted to be about, not because I have any itch with striving for truly traditional sounds
as embodied by great singers.

Although a good deal of my repertoire is Irish I am probably more akin to traditional acappella English singers, ala Louie Killen,
Martin Carthy, and tons of others. Am also heavily into Shantey singing so Stan Hugill has been a big influence in person and in
writing.

I'll give some more thought to singers I believe in! Marc



Subject: RE: fellow sean-nos singers?
From: Barry Finn - PM
Date: 24 Mar 98 - 12:33 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: South

Aine, http://www.ossian.ie/index.html That's Ossian they have a good collection. Close by me (southern NH), I don't know where in
the states you are, there are some very nice folks who have a good working knowledge of Sean-Nos recordings there E-Mail is (
ossianusa@aol.com ). Good Luck, Barry


Subject: RE: fellow sean-nos singers?
From: Cliff McGann - PM
Date: 26 Mar 98 - 08:42 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: Say A Song

I wouldn't consider myself a Sean-Nos singer although I do sing some Irish songs. I studied Scot's Gaelic in Nova Scotia and teach it
here in the Boston area but since Irish is more prominent here I have learned some songs. One of the best sources for Sean-Nos
recordings is the Irish record label Clo/-Iar Chonnachta(CIC) based in Conamara. Their website is @ http://www.wombat.ie/cic/ I
would suggest gaining an understanding of the different styles of Sean-Nos by obtaining recordings that are representative of those
styles. Some suggestions would be Connemara singer Sea/n 'ac Dhonncha's CD An Spailpi/n Fa/nach or Donegal singer Lillis O/
Laoire's CD Bláth Gach Géag dá dTig or the CD Bruach na Carraige Báine by Diarmuid Ó Súilleabháin which features sean-nós
songs from Muskerry, Co. Cork (ALL Avaialbel FROM CIC). Another recording of Sean-Nos many people are not aware of is Joe
Heaney's Say A Song which was recorded while he was an artist in residence at the University of Washington. Some Good stuff on
it. For more info check http://www.nwfolklife.org/folklife/P_REC/Recordings.html

Good Luck, Cliff.


Subject: RE: fellow sean-nos singers?
From: Martin Ryan - PM
Date: 02 Apr 98 - 11:02 AM
In The Mudcat Shop: A Compilation

Two recommendations for anyone who'd like an idea of what sean-nos singing is - and its relation to Irish traditional singing in
English.

(i) "Amhrain ar an Sean-Nos" is a compilation CD drawn from the archives of RTE, the national radio station. Mostly studio
recordings in the late fifties/early sixties, with some field recordings.Songs (in Irish) and singers from all over the country. Words in
Irish, outlines in English and good notes.

(ii) "Hurry the Jug" is a compilation CD drawn from classic Topic label recordings of Irish traditional singers around the same period.
Mostly field recordings. Almost all in English. These are the sources from which many of the later well-known singers drew
inspiration and songs.

Where to get them? try "Ulstersongs" at http://members.aol.com/jmoul81075/ulstsong.htm
Tell John Moulden I sent you! I'll add him to the links page.

Each of the above is 78 mins long - so there's great value as well.

Regards
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Here also is a link to National University of Ireland, Galway, where you can find audio clips of samples of sean nos singing by several different singers. http://www.gaelstor.com/lionta/english.html

Alice