The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #56568 Message #886389
Posted By: Bob Bolton
09-Feb-03 - 06:44 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: July Wakes (Pomfret, Ellison)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: July Wakes
G'day Mick,
I'm glad to see that the question of authorship has come up. I could see that the song has sort of slipped into the "folk" scene as a collected song - then started to gather claimants for authorship.
It seems to me that the social and industrial conditions it describes must be earlier than World War One ... but that doesn't necessarily mean it is that old (or not!). Does anyone have any dates / references for Mrs Bellasis ... or the author quoted by Mike Harding in his 1980 book? (Sorry, I'm not sure I can sneak back to the older thread without losing this text!)
Ms Lemon: Thanks for the phonetics/linguistics on the switch of "r" locations in Lancashire dialect. I was aware of the brid - bird one and should have thought of that, except that I was distracted by the change of vowel from "u" to "a"!
All up, it's a great song ... it would be nice to be able to pin down its origins!
Regards,
Bob Bolton