Thanks fir the link, HG, but I'm at my beat up home pudder and it's sound card--whatever that is-- is shot and it don't play right but I'll check it out tomorrow. Sounds like you might be in the Austin area. Have you heard James McMurtrey? He's a local boy. Grew up 15 miles from here. His dad, Larry, wrote "Lomesome Dove". Well, James ahs a unique sound so it ya' ver get a chance to hear him... do it.

Bobert

ps. Not too sure what this has to do with hate and rage but....