The point is, the Bush administration and the mainstream media are acting as if capturing or killing Saddam is a done deal. That once we send in the troops, we'll have Saddam.

It is those kinds of disconnects from reality the propagandizing encourages that are really disturbing. They seem to be selling the American public this bill of goods that says--this time, we won't make the same mistake as in the first Gulf War, this time we'll get Saddam.

I agree with Rick. We won't get Saddam, not under any circumstances. So why use that as a selling point in the propaganda war? Won't it backfire on the Bush administration in a way that really could damage their credibility, among hawks and chickenhawks?