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"More power to ya, but maybe keep the dander down... OK?"

Point well taken. My apologies for allowing a full moon's influence to get the upper hand on in my passion for intellectual honesty in a debate which is why I have a tendency to lose it over simplistic"wave of the hand" dismissals without backing up one's case.
I call to task both the far right AND the far left when they dodge facts "inconvinient" to their points. Both sides will bullshit if it will gain targetted ground.
I respect intellectual honesty and I practice what I preach .
When I'm wrong because when I "am" mis-informed I am grateful to have learned something more that I didn't know.

That's the whole point to debate to my mind : to learn atleast the 3 sides of an argument in order to learn and not just to espouse any "ideologically correct" scripting from an armchair or a beerhall. That's intellectual "laziness" and sincerely seeking the entire arguement is as good a working definition of a passionate "independent" as any.

Passionately independent policing ideological correctness whatever stripe it may brandish.