Ok, yeah... but is the masculine to be forever diluted by the boorish, the mean, and the agressive? I just don't feel like the 'essence' of masculinity is dependent upon the qualities of Animus. In fact I would hasten to point out, that alot of uncivilised activity occurs under the guise of 'masculinity'... but it is born out of weakness and depravity... Discretion, on the other hand...

reason with me. ttr