Shambles, forget the forum or threads or whatever and think about this a minute......In the case of the PEL it is a very important issue to say the least. Now as an American, I don't have a dog in that fight, but I have read along as best I could and tried to educate myself. I've stayed out of the opinion end but have occasionally asked a question to help me understand. The number of threads is significant at this point and it's easy to get lost. I think this is happening to a number of UK members as well.

What I am suggesting is to keep a "PEL Daily News" thread going and to post to it. It would be easy to follow and not miss out on the latest change. THEN, if a significant development occurs, start a new thread on that but reference it in the News thread as well. News that fits one of the older threads can be listed in both the News thread and the appropriate existing thread or if you want the info in an older thread as background to the News post, link the one you want me to read as background in the News post.

The number of PEL thread starts has improved but I think you would be well served to have a NEWS thread as a "meeting place." At 200 or 300 posts or every week or two start another one. It would make the whole thing infinitely easier to follow. Let's say you post a piece of news and I want to make an extended comment about it. If you have linked the right thread then I can post to the NEWS thread and say that I have an opinion and I have posted it on "XYZ" linked thread.

Just a thought in your case and if you hate it, I'm sorry. it would be something I would consider were it I that were in your place.

As to deletions or (gasp!) censorship on Iraq, none is taking place. Joe has moved messages and deleted only cut and paste stuff which he has explained. Everyone needs a place to express their opinions on the war and at lest a place to vent. But the situation is far different from PEL.......In the case of Iraq we have a very few people starting the vast majority of the threads, often with only cut and paste troll stuff. Everytime a new piece of news comes along, it doesn't warrant a thread, but if it does, anyone is free to start one......But geeziz let it be different and not the same friggin' thing!! Where Joe has transferred messages, they still exist and that ain't censorship!

Spaw