Hi Teribus,

Thanks for your response.

Mine to yours.

1. The UN has been weakened by the current US position and they do have an inordinate amount of influence in that body. The UN is the only body that is truly being responsible here and to say otherwise would require some evidence to be presented to the contrary.

2. The sanctions being lifted by Husseins cooperation have nothing to do with the loss of many innocent lives.

3. No, the DU comes from the bombs that are being used, not cannonshells.

4. The fact of the growth of Iraq's population has nothing to do with the people that are being subjected to radiation, cholera, etc. And the children that have died is recorded in the statistics of the WHO and UNICEF.

5. Repression does exist by both Saddam and the US. There will be more refugees escaping Iraq as the US intensifies it's bombing.

No, the propaganda is laid at the doorstep of the Bush Administration. It's funny how history evades people nowadays.

In the 1980's Ronald Reagan put Saddam Hussein in power as a deterrent to the Ayatollah. In short, the Reagan Administration is responsible for Saddam Hussein.

The Bush Administration also fostered the propaganda about Iraqi Soldiers emptying incubators in hospitals. This was later uncovered as a hoax, a publicty stunt.

Propaganda is being delivered daily. It was Richard Perle who said that "Terrorism" needs to be "low context".

This talk of "Human Shields" is reminiscent of the euphemism of the military today, "collateral damage". Somehow human lives become irrelevant in the arguments presented to make a case for war.

I submit to you that the "facts" today on this issue are not being presented because there is a media blackout on what is really happening over there. There are many "pundits" who are speculating about what is going on without being privy to genuine information. The US media today can't be counted on to give an accurate picture. The TV news is a business akin to entertainment and the issues presented are first and foremost to garner ratings and listeners.

This is the purpose of posting the information in this thread so that people can really see what is going on and not submit to talk-show-host arguments.

Frank