Hi, Fred:

I read this somewhere many years ago and it has always stuck with me.

"Love without honesty is sentimentality
Honesty without love is cruelty"

I don't think any of us are talking about sentimentality in this thread. Some people (not referring to our Guest) become so cynical that they can't accept love as a possibility, and reduce even the most loving acts to something that is either self-serving, or sentimental.

Thanks for your postings.. and everyone else...

Jerry