He certainly WAS a great player Orc. I'm so glad I got to see him. On TV, I watched him destroy catcher Ray Fosse, and later my friend Stan Melasky (who'd played a bit with Fosse) said "There's not a player on the field mad at Rose right now....that's how he plays ALL THE TIME"!

Ty Cobb who was at LEAST as bad a gambler as Rose, is IN.

Shoeless Joe Jackson who was apparently illiterate (and was only accused once....is not.

He's a tough nut, and I believe he'll NEVER admit to wrong-doing in his lifetime, but I'll bet he's in within five years of his death (with a caveat on the plaque)

The HOCKEY HALL OF FAME kept several players out cuz they weren't CHRISTIAN enough.

And of course, Spaw's right about Hornung and Karras.....these Hall of Famers knew how to gamble!

Can you imagine how many Music pioneers would be kept out of the Rockabilly Hall of Fame, if they enforced the drug laws? (just kiddin')

Rick