Thanks, Micca, I guess you expressed it better - it's the "excluding tactic" that I find irritating. I am certainly not on a crusade here, I thought I had made that obvious with my second posting, and please accept my apologies for taxing your patience, Russ, with my "pseudo-morality". Neither am I an outsider looking in. Nor have I ever been on the receiving end of such behaviour, as I have never infringed anyone's ownership of a song, singing mainly the ones I write. But I have seen people bicker about such things, and wondered how an outsider might feel.

I DO have one "kick" though: I'd like to see more people, and more young people, coming to folk clubs, simply because I love the music, the tradition and the environment, and I think it something worth perpetuating. And in this context, "excluding tactics" bother me.